Comments on: Defending Position 19 http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/defending-position-19/ Follow our Book in Development Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:45:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Andreas http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/defending-position-19/#comment-133 Andreas Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:42:49 +0000 http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/?p=312#comment-133 Updated this one on 23 July 09 with some additional research in para 2. Updated this one on 23 July 09 with some additional research in para 2.

]]> By: jamesbailey http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/defending-position-19/#comment-14 jamesbailey Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:04:42 +0000 http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/?p=312#comment-14 There is a German deployment map in the NARA archives, although I do not remember if I copied it for Andreas. There is a German deployment map in the NARA archives, although I do not remember if I copied it for Andreas.

]]> By: jonsowden http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/defending-position-19/#comment-13 jonsowden Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:50:32 +0000 http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/?p=312#comment-13 The Matilda was also vulnerable to the German 5cm A-Tk gun ... although of course Hartz didn't have one of those either. There is a photo in one of the NZ OHs of a Matilda recovered during CRUSADER whose turret has been neatly drilled, twice, by 50mm rounds. Also, there is a quite detailed map of the breakout from Tobruk in Freyburg's 1942 operational report on CRUSADER, which as I recall has the different positions named and coloured to indicate nationality (Italian vice German). Then again, it is unlikely that Allied intelligence and objectives would neatly and precisely align with actual Axis dispositions on the ground. What you'd really need is a German-sourced (or Italian?) deployment map. The Matilda was also vulnerable to the German 5cm A-Tk gun … although of course Hartz didn’t have one of those either. There is a photo in one of the NZ OHs of a Matilda recovered during CRUSADER whose turret has been neatly drilled, twice, by 50mm rounds.

Also, there is a quite detailed map of the breakout from Tobruk in Freyburg’s 1942 operational report on CRUSADER, which as I recall has the different positions named and coloured to indicate nationality (Italian vice German). Then again, it is unlikely that Allied intelligence and objectives would neatly and precisely align with actual Axis dispositions on the ground. What you’d really need is a German-sourced (or Italian?) deployment map.

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